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<table border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="100%" class="forumline"> <tr> <th class="thCornerL" width="22%" height="26">Autor</th> <th class="thCornerR">Wiadomość</th> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>ossytrai8p</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://picsrv.fora.pl/xeon/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Wysłany: Czw 18:49, 07 Paź 2010<span class="gen"> </span> Temat postu: puma 4New Puma bikes designed by Jens-Martin Skibs</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">The end consequence of this bike seems to be that when somebody steals your bike, nobody has a bike because the thief destroys it. Uh. Great. <br />"Goodbye testicles" - I was thinking comedically, as soon as I saw the tension wire, of fun incidents I've seen on boats when wires snap. <br />These bikes are horrible. The bike shop I worked for had a deal with Puma to assemble the Diskos, which normally entails about an hour or two of work (you have to tension and true the wheels; adjust the bearing preloads on the hubs, the bottom bracket, and the headset; tighten all fasteners to spec; tune shifting; adjust brakes and brake pads; and probably some other toils I forgot to list here), but these things were invariably a pain in the ass. The components are sub par and the frame is junk. And now they put a hinge in? Folding bikes are more oft than not even massiveger hunks of junk. I feel sorry for anyone who wastes their money on this thing and tries to utilize it as a bicycle. <br /> jordan &bull; #11 &bull; 12:54 PM Thursday, Jun 17, 2010 &bull; Reply <br />If I could afford one, I would cover it with BP logo adhere,ers! <br /> <br /> MadMolecule &bull; #19 &bull; 2:33 PM Thursday, Jun 17, 2010 &bull; Reply <br /> <br />I assent. It reminds of those car stereos where the face pops off. Also, I haven't checked, but I'd imagine that if the cable gets clipped you can probably order a new one. <br />These <a href="http://www.pumashoesmen.com/" target="_blank" class="postlink">Puma</a> bikes are way too pricey, but I do like the basket on the front of the Pico. <br />You are probably thinking of the peak, tube, but I would still miss my down tube mounted bottle cage. There is a mount for a bottle cage on the seat tube but my lighting gear uses it. <br /> Anon &bull; #35 &bull; 8:29 AM Saturday, Jun 19, 2010 &bull; Reply <br /> Pete &bull; #21 &bull; 4:04 PM Thursday, Jun 17, 2010 &bull; Reply <br />In Europe there's a type of lock that goes on the rear wheel of bikes, and when 'locked' immobilises the bike. It's the sort of thing you use when inside a shop for five minutes,<a href="http://www.pumashoesmen.com/puma-2010-ferrari-shoes-c-13.html" target="_blank" class="postlink">purple ferrari</a>, and they cost about 20 euros. <br /> MrsBug &bull; #6 &bull; 12:29 PM Thursday, Jun 17, 2010 &bull; Reply <br />I do like the built-in front carriers on even the men's bikes. I wish more bikes would do this, although I have a hobby for my milk crate tied to the back of my urban bike. <br />This is not new. This design was abnormale during the 90's under the "Sling sboiling" brand name. It didn't catch on then, and it wont now. <br /> Sconclusion a comment Name --> Unregistered --> Email Address URL --> Remember personal info? <br />Read the full moderation policy. Thank you! <br /> <br /> <br /> --> <br /> <br />The erect quality of their shoes makes me question Puma's capability to bring us a bike that's more than just pretty. <br />hahahaha! that's funny. <br /> Anon &bull; #31 &bull; 8:59 AM Friday, Jun 18, 2010 &bull; Reply <br />If you like the Disko, then you potency want to check out Slingshazardous Bikes <br />The cable downtube seems like a bit of a gimmick- one would assume it's to save weight, or to improve the folding capacity, yet it's heavier than a Brompton (12.7kg vs 11.5kg) and is bigger when folded. <br />Ug, more "designer" designed bikes. That "Disko" one has been around for a number of years now. My friend in Brooklyn watched one slowly decompose on the street because somebody cut the cable "lock", rendering it un-usable. <br />Back in the '70's, my uncle had a bike that looked exactivityly like the minusculeer on. It folded in half to fit in his trunk and he would take it camping*. <br />Looks kinda like a warthog. <br />BTW: the reCaptcha on this is Washington belching <br />seems funny to me, anyway <br />Poorly designed for it's stated purpose. <br /> <br /> David Pescovitz replied to comment from Church &bull; #3 &bull; 12:17 PM Thursday, Jun 17, 2010 &bull; Reply <br /> Church &bull; #2 &bull; 12:12 PM Thursday, Jun 17, 2010 &bull; Reply <br /> <br />I view for a moment that Pesco's hands had seized up halfway through typing the headline. <br /> aaronhelton &bull; #32 &bull; 11:39 AM Friday, Jun 18, 2010 &bull; Reply <br />I like the idea of an integsized lock though. And in addition to mudguards and luggage space, city bikes should have lights. Sure, all of these things can be added on, but commuters want something that competes with an old beaten up used car for convenience, fit and accomplish, and reliability. <br /> SamSam replied to comment from skabob &bull; #18 &bull; 2:10 PM Thursday, Jun 17, 2010 &bull; Reply <br /> TFox &bull; #16 &bull; 1:34 PM Thursday, Jun 17, 2010 &bull; Reply <br /> <br />My guess is that they're saying that it's a flip-flop rear hub. i.e. one that can be turned around to be either a fixie or a single-speed. I know a couple of people that have such wheels. <br />"Goodbye, testicles." <br /> WalterBillington replied to comment from Michael Smith &bull; #30 &bull; 7:42 AM Friday, Jun 18, 2010 &bull; Reply <br /> Buckethead replied to comment from Church &bull; #15 &bull; 1:20 PM Thursday, Jun 17, 2010 &bull; Reply <br /> WalterBillington &bull; #25 &bull; 3:18 AM Friday, Jun 18, 2010 &bull; Reply <br />New <a href="http://www.pumashoesmen.com/" target="_blank" class="postlink">Puma</a> bikes designed by Jens-Martin Skibsted/Biomega/Kibisi <br />Beautiful but expensive. Like, my eyes popped out expensive. <br /> Malgwyn &bull; #24 &bull; 3:09 AM Friday, Jun 18, 2010 &bull; Reply <br /> alexdecampi &bull; #7 &bull; 12:33 PM Thursday, Jun 17, 2010 &bull; Reply <br /> <br /> skabob &bull; #13 &bull; 1:04 PM Thursday, Jun 17, 2010 &bull; Reply <br />No fenders or chain guard? Useless for city biking. <br /> <br /> Michael Smith replied to comment from WalterBillington &bull; #27 &bull; 4:51 AM Friday, Jun 18, 2010 &bull; Reply <br />12.6kg (including lock, however flimsy, to give it credit), Shimano SLX gears for no good reason in a town bike (yet no SLX brakes, yay nonames here) - and this all for a mere 800? ? <br />A tension wire "down tube". <br />I own a folder (or used to, kinda). It almost met its goal of being easy to throw in a car trunk. Yes, it flexed a bit more than a regular bike, but that didn't seem like a big deal... until the frame *broke in two* while being ridden. I don't think I'll buy another. <br />There is a gleam in a meth addict's eye that happens when they see a really exorbitant bicycle. There is no coerces into on earth capable of preventing a tweaker from not stealing once that gleam is triggered. The concept that the bike wouldn't work is irrelevant. Tweakers often have piles of useless stolen items that they hoard like dragons. <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br />Photographed these great bikes. <br />Somehow, I don't think a bike thief would look at this bike and try to perplex out how it works before stealing it. <br /> jonno &bull; #12 &bull; 1:00 PM Thursday, Jun 17, 2010 &bull; Reply <br />Goodbye, testicles. <br /> David Pescovitz replied to comment from MadMolecule &bull; #20 &bull; 3:07 PM Thursday, Jun 17, 2010 &bull; Reply <br />The Disko one is quite clever. Yes, someone can vandalize it, but they can't easily steal it (and end up with a useful bike.) <br />* In a KOA trailer park, drunk off his ass, would use the bike to get to the camp store to buy ice and smokes. <br />The problem with most designer/art bikes is that the emphasis is placed on a clever design, not on the usability of the bike itself. <br /> loonquawl &bull; #26 &bull; 3:53 AM Friday, Jun 18, 2010 &bull; Reply <br /> Pasketti &bull; #14 &bull; 1:13 PM Thursday, Jun 17, 2010 &bull; Reply <br />"Yes, someone can vandalize it, but they can't easily steal it (and end up with a useful bike.)" <br />That's not that outrageous for a new folding bike- Dahon, Brompton, Montague, and Strida are all in the same ballpark (though there are cheap Chinese copies of most of these). And it is a designer bike. <br /> Iscah &bull; #22 &bull; 6:25 PM Thursday, Jun 17, 2010 &bull; Reply <br /> Chairboy &bull; #28 &bull; 5:55 AM Friday, Jun 18, 2010 &bull; Reply <br />"The Disko seems neat. I wonder how sturdy it is (when it isn't vandalized, of cdistance). " <br /> <br />I'd have to disagree on the price of a Dahon. I bought last year's Boardwalk for less than $300 delivered to my door and am quite happy with it. I do a bus/bike combistate, and the bike portion is 3 miles of semi-urban and urban (DC area). If I could add anything to it as standard option: lighting, a chain guard, and a basket instead of the rack. <br />"Be fraction of an urban fixie culture or be reasonable: the rear hub gives you the choice..." <br /> <br />the hideousness is overwhelming. <br /> <br />I'm trying to figure out which hipster with the cash to afford this is going to want a Puma 'fauxie' instead of spending less to get an ruleual fixie. No one who would be component of an urban fixie culture, I'd wager. <br /> aeroplane &bull; #1 &bull; 12:05 PM Thursday, Jun 17, 2010 &bull; Reply <br />Eek, $970 for a quite heavy and basic town bike? <br /> <br />Overall: neat concept, weak execution. <br /> Anon &bull; #23 &bull; 11:37 PM Thursday,<a href="http://alessio.forumup.it/viewtopic.php?p=50645&mforum=alessio#50645" target="_blank" class="postlink">puma 3sport Shoes Shop,Cheap Nike Shoes, Cheap Pum</a>, Jun 17, 2010 &bull; Reply <br />They're quite pretty, but a little too expensive. <br />The Disko seems neat. I wonder how sturdy it is (when it isn't vandalized, of procedure). Obviously the most significant thing the down tube does is to supply tention downwards, but is it not also crucial in side-to-side structure? Would it survive Boston potholes? And is being a hipster required to own one? <br /> <br />*sigh* <br />Tech, Culture and <br />Videos &bull; Features &bull; Bazaar <br />Archives &bull; Contact &bull; Suggest <br />New <a href="http://www.pumashoesmen.com/" target="_blank" class="postlink">Puma</a> bikes designed by Jens-Martin Skibsted/Biomega/Kibisi <br /> Beanolini replied to comment from alexdecampi &bull; #29 &bull; 6:24 AM Friday, Jun 18, 2010 &bull; Reply Eek, $970 for a fairly heavy and basic town bike? <br /> Anon &bull; #33 &bull; 6:27 PM Friday, Jun 18, 2010 &bull; Reply <br /> <br /> <br /> Church replied to comment from SamSam &bull; #5 &bull; 12:24 PM Thursday, Jun 17, 2010 &bull; Reply <br /> <br />The relative disabling aspect intrigues me. <br />Why do they ship to the US but not Canada? We've already been ID's as the 51st state, why not take advantage of of it? <br /> Anon &bull; #34 &bull; 8:02 PM Friday, Jun 18,<a href="http://www.pumashoesmen.com/" target="_blank" class="postlink">puma shoes classic</a>, 2010 &bull; Reply <br /> Anon &bull; #8 &bull; 12:34 PM Thursday,<a href="http://www.pumashoesmen.com/" target="_blank" class="postlink">puma sandals for men</a>, Jun 17, 2010 &bull; Reply <br />I think these guys birthated the cable downtube concept, and do it much better than the Disko seems to. <br />David Pescovitz at 11:46 AM Thursday, Jun 17, 2010 <br /> <br /> This week, Puma launched its new length of ultraacute city bicycles designed by my dear Danish friend Jens-Martin Skibsted, his firm Biomega, makers of high-design luxury bikes, and Kibisi. Above left is the Pico, a BMX-inspired frame that folds up; right, the Disko, which has a tension wire "down tube" that doubles as a bike lock. <a href="http://www.pumashoesmen.com/" target="_blank" class="postlink">Puma</a> Bikes <br /> Cutlery with built-in stands <br />Biomega/<a href="http://www.pumashoesmen.com/" target="_blank" class="postlink">Puma sneaker</a> for biking <br />Actics: social networking for "ethical" businesses <br />Biomega's new Puma Bike <br />Bamboo bike by Ross Lovegrove and Biomega <br />35 Comments &bull; Add a comment <br /> Chesterdomain &bull; #10 &bull; 12:50 PM Thursday, Jun 17, 2010 &bull; Reply <br />So, their fixie has brakes. And a freewheel: <br /> <br />No actual science here, but as a former messenger I'm guessing there's a lot more sideways flex. For most commuters (and messengers to be honest) that's not going to be noticeable. <br /><a href="http://www.bigpermstudios.com" target="_blank">www.bigpermstudios.com</a> <br />The Disko is mostly a POS. Too heavy (even in singlespeed form), flexy and with surprevolutionly awful brakes. I assembled one for a friend who worked at <a href="http://www.pumashoesmen.com/" target="_blank" class="postlink">Puma</a> several years ago and came astep with a really bad judgment of their quality. I for one would never ride a city bike with brakes as unreliable and weak as this thing had. The cable needed a really fine adjustment to keep from flopping around, too. Folding was neat but it didn't get that minute, and was unwieldy to carry so taking it on the train would be a no-go. <br /> <br />Ah, but no chainguard (to speak of), no mudgauard and no lights, plus a choice between two terrible paintjobs and black&white - Now i get it. <br /> Phlip &bull; #17 &bull; 1:48 PM Thursday, Jun 17, 2010 &bull; Reply <br /> SamSam &bull; #4 &bull; 12:19 PM Thursday, Jun 17, 2010 &bull; Reply <br /> Anon &bull; #9 &bull; 12:38 PM Thursday, Jun 17, 2010 &bull; Reply</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="http://picsrv.fora.pl/xeon/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> </table>
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